Opening thoughts: How does this look for 7 seasons? 2 winning seasons while only having one winning season at the end of the all star break. Does that mean anything to you? Does it call out and say “we aren’t going to always dig ourselves out of the trenches that we build!” Well it is time to say “Good bye” to the man that was a part of this, Eric Wedge.
Sometimes I really don’t get the man. He is quiet, and a self conscious little guy. But why does he make such stupidity become reality? Why does he turn a “phenomenal team” into a “slumping team?” I just don’t get it sometimes. And well, neither do the Indians! Its tough to fire someone, but the deed has to be done, rid of him and move on.
What was he thinking by sitting Michael Brantley while he “was on his 8 game hitting streak?” What was he thinking? Sometimes, when a guy is hot, and when a guy especially like Brantley likes to play every day possible, why do you sit him? What pops into your mind telling you “to take the chance, that nothing will go wrong.” What do you know? Brantley ends the streak at 8 games in his “next” game and starts over again.
Another Eric Wedge, boneheaded move right there. Get used to it! I don’t get the process of thinking sometimes. Why don’t we bring in our “best” guys in the bullpen instead of our “worst” of the line? Its always the question “why” with Eric. Why is Marte at third today? You know his number’s are bad.
The success level of 2 out of 7 winning seasons just isn’t exceptable, and in the 08 season, I know we finished 81-81 but that falls under “not winning.” But I like to go back and think, “what would we have been like if Manuel would have stayed here in Cleveland? What would have happened if we could’ve kept our ‘stars’?” You never will know…
For all we know, we could have had 5 out of 7 winning seasons, and a World Series title under our belts. And you know what, Eric can’t take all of the blame. Look at all of the guys we have traded over the years! Look at how we have all the young guys we have received and have taken their chance to show us what the have!
You know they all came in those trades too right? Bartolo Colon for Grady, Victor, Brandon Phillips, and Cliff Lee catches my eye. We still hold Grady, our key player that we are quote “building around.” If it wasn’t for Shapiro, we wouldn’t be “here” teetering at the good – bad line flirting with becoming great again.
Maybe we shouldn’t be “blaming” anyone at all. I mean Shapiro has gone in and traded most of our “key guys” but has also brought in ‘all’ of our key guys. Name one guy in our starting lineup that we have “brought up through the minors.” Oh you can’t? That means Mark Shapiro has done his job. He has lived up to his ever lasting “rebuilding stages.” He has showed me that he carries it out.
Maybe Wedge isn’t the one to falter, for he was the one to have to “deal with the young guys.” He has assembled a little army of fighting knights, and we aren’t going to stop til we reach the top. Wedge might not be here, but when we achieve greatness, he will be the one to blame, excuse me, thank.
We haven’t seen it yet, but we have great baseball at the touch of our hands. The voice is just calling to us, “wait another year, come on Cleveland, you can do it.” And by the looks of things, we are following every command. We “can” be great next year and we “can” have the potential in 2011, but who says we “will?”
And until that factor comes into play, don’t expect anything. As I have been saying this for the longest time, “we aren’t going to contend until we have the pitching.” We are only two strong in my opinion, with the 3rd on his side. Jake Westbrook “could” come back full steam ahead, and could come back to being the 15 win guy he always was.
And Fausto Carmona “could” get back to 07 form and dominate with his “nasty” sinker that he threw to get his top notch ground ball/fly ball ratio. Everyone “could” compete, which they did in 07, but it isnt’ a “guarantee.” Nothing is with the Indians. Aaron Laffey is looking better and better to me, just gaining experience with every outing. I think this kid is the “real deal” and we need to hold onto him tight and not let him go.
As I said in “the Centerpiece,” the Indians hold their key to destiny, which is right before them. And that is exactly the truth. The Indians aren’t gonna come out next year and “wow” you. They are too young. They might surprise by winning 75 to 80 games, but they won’t have a shot at contending. So if you think that they are “the odds to win favorite of the AL Central” you are wrong.
With speed atop the team with Brantley, Cabrera, Choo, and Grady, the Indians could steal a ton of bases, and could use some “small ball antics” to steal the hearts of the Central. But will it happen? I am not sure. It is realisticly possible, with Brantley stealing 46 in the minors, and with Grady stealing 30 when he is on his game. The speed factor can be checked off the list, as well as the “offense” portion.
And now moving on to the offense. We need to be “more consistant” at the plate. We can’t go off of 17 hits, and all of a sudden get 2. That just isn’t good enough for the major leagues, and isn’t good enough for the Indians themselves. Its time they let themselves fly, they just hang loose for a year. Its time they make some dramatic changes in the clubhouse. We need a guy who can control the team and be a “leader” that shows signs of intensity.
With Santana possibly coming up next year for “Sept. call ups” we could be getting a look at our future catcher, and a possible MVP for years to come. From his ridiculous double A numbers, to his strong arm, he is the real deal head to toe. If we can get a hold of him by next year at the MLB level, and then broaden him for the 11′ season, oh you better be looking out Central, cuz we will be gunning for the top spot.
Its time “we” win for a change. 2011 is bright looking and we “could” be the winner’s of the Central, and we “could” be the cellar dwellers too. But who is to know unless we find out. Hey, if you just keep on dreaming, 2011 will come by soon right? C’mon Cleveland, its all in your own hands.
Over the years, Cleveland has been the “centerpiece” for all prospects, and young guys looking for a place to “live the dream.” Well Cleveland is the right place to go Wayward sons, as we offer the best package in baseball. You grow upon our organization so strongly you can’t let go. We are the “centerpiece” in all baseball, to trade away, and move players at any instant. That’s us, your Cleveland Indians.
In the 1990’s, our success was based upon many young guys who hit the snot out of the ball. Most of these guys stumbled upon great teams and built up wonderful career’s that still go on today. We are the “centerpiece” as I said. We have the power. We can make or break the history of our program and the history of baseball, well maybe not that but you know what I mean right?
So why do we not sign the best player’s in the league and why do we trade our best players for the “rebuilding” process year after year? I don’t know. Possibly because we know these guys have blistering potential that could swirl up into one bad counter act destroying the team? Example: Manny Ramirez. Just Manny being Manny in his own world.
Or could it be that we don’t have enough money to pay their contracts? I don’t think this is the answer to go with because we have a pretty even, and fair budget. It’s not like we are the Pirates, but at the same time we aren’t as “loaded” as the Yankees are. They can go out and spend countless amounts of money on anyone they want whenever they want. We simply just can’t.
Over the years, we have groomed such players as Jim Thome, Richie Sexson, and Manny Ramirez, who are/were household names. Thome has joined the 500 HR club recently and Manny has continued his inglorious career with the Los Angeles Dodgers who are feeding him money at his feet.
Remember, we had them. We went there. That was us for a point in time. We were the “centerpiece” and held the destiny to our own franchise. Yet we stopped spending on them to “rebuild”? Or we didn’t offer them a “good enough” contract? Doesn’t cut it for me. We should have kept them until they chose to go, not because we wanted them to leave cuz we couldn’t pay their contract.
Just think how the future could have changed, maybe we could still have Jim Thome. We could have gone with offering another contract to him, instead of showing him the back of our grubby little hands. Instead of building the franchise around him and using the “centerpiece” to continue our destiny, we threw it away. We did it to ourselves Cleveland. We held our own destiny and threw it away. It sucks, I know, but it has to be dealt with.
That is why Victor Martinez didn’t wanna go from Cleveland, because we were so good to him. He loved us and we loved him back, but not like a man love or anything that’s just weird. Victor cried when he heard he was being “traded” because he didn’t wanna leave the beautiful city and its glorious fans. He wanted to stay here and continue onward into his outstanding career.
But we did it again. Traded away another good one. All for the sake that we were “rebuilding” and wanted fresh meat on the market. Raincheck, Victor is fresh meat, it seems as though we brought him up yesterday. Its not like he is “too old” for the rebuilding process, why keep him? The younger guys you are quote “building around” don’t have big salaries at all, so why not keep Victor?
Instead we get Justin Masterson who is a reliever “gone starter” and doesn’t have the stuff yet that we were looking for. And in trading Victor we didn’t get really anything “huge” for the rebuilding process. So what’s the matter with keeping him? And “if” your going to trade him, make sure you hold out for Buchholz. He is an actual pitcher who we could get something out of.
The front office scares me at the little knowledge that they possess. Its almost like if we don’t have a “winning” season, you can say “bye bye” to our top players. And as Aaron in Cleveland Baseball said, “Grady could be the next one to go?” I totally agree with this possessive front office occurring right now for the Tribe. Its scary to think of Grady in another uniform, yet not playing on our side.
Why are we always “rebuilding” and “reloading” as Shapiro calls it. What do we ever get out of it? We got the 2007 season and that is about it. Instead we throw away two seasons and wait for the third to “possibly” be a contending year. Not gonna cut it. For one Wedge is gonzo after this season, as he is horrible in the first half of the season, and second off, Shapiro will get the back of the hand too.
The “centerpiece” for all things in Cleveland has truly run out as of late. As we have supplied many teams with “power, and speed, and pitching” yet what have we gotten? One good year of “contending”? The Padres and The Friar Faithful are digging “Kouz” who the Indians mentored throughout the minors, and the Dodgers are digging Manny. Who are we digging? Who have we “gotten” from someone else that we have “loved”?
I can’t really answer that one right now, as it teeters in my mind. We are the “suppliers” and in return recieve the young blood. We are the “Wal Mart” of major league baseball, supplying all of “your needs” and nothing else. So maybe we aren’t a rotten team after all, maybe we are just many people persons, combined into a huge collaboration that we call the “Cleveland Indians”?
You can’t keep on telling us we are “reloading” for next season to just keep on failing and keep shutting out the fan base. That isn’t going to be selling many seats. You can’t keep on telling us that “we will contend in 2011 no matter what the circumstances are!” Because in truth, you don’t know one way or another which way we are going to fall. For all you know, we could lose 100 games.
The “centerpiece” has come and gone over the years, and yet have we to receive a player that we “had it our way” like Burger King, for once in our lives. For we are the manager’s at Burger King and every other team picks and chooses who they want, and we supply them with no argument whatsoever. Time for a change, time to be the “receivers not the “suppliers.” And its time we storm into Cleveland and rant and rave about our “front office.” Let’s go Cleveland the future is ours.
I knew the day was going to be bad when I woke up and lazily jumped into my morning shower. I got dressed and ready for school only awaiting another disastrous day. It was like I knew it all along like I was going Matrix this morning. It seemed like I wasn’t me,.. and nor were the Indians.
One big fat word for you: swept. We got swept by the Texas Rangers – and today seemed like we could’ve cared less for all of the 15,000 in the stands. 10-0 tells me that we didn’t put forth enough effort to survive the cold world of this business. And for Fausto Carmona – he kept us 5 runs in the ball game this time. Congrats buddy, even better than last time.
It was like no one was in it today – it seemed like today was an odd day (9-9/09) was fresh under way jinxing the Indians winning ways – and the chance for some fun at the ball-park. The offense sure didn’t have it, and for that matter nor did John Adams. It wasn’t a fun day at all, to come home and see the Indians lose 10-0.
That is a big number to lose by, which leaves a sour note in my stomach. Do the Indians have enough pitching to hold up next year? They haven’t been the consistent. My answer is “no they don’t.” Next year they aren’t going to be good enough and Cleveland and Ted will have to wait another wretched, gagging year to swallow down.
It isn’t fair that we fans have to endure this. We will get expected to win the Central all over again – only to blow are chances like we always do. We will pick up those go-to guys in the off-season, only to trade them midway through. That is our MO, that’s what we always do. That is the life of Cleveland baseball.
This three game sweep that has drought-ed upon us has surely knocked out next years hopes in Ted’s mind. For even I, with a strong belief in the Indians can’t go on much longer with this mediocre squad. The pain building in the lower stomach area brings forth so much pressure on one’s self it hurts. The pain-staking thought of another bad Indians season rocks the inner brain and rots it to the core.
We don’t deserve this, us poor innocent fans who regularly attend Progressive Field. The continuous losing of the mind jolting Cleveland Indians. What happened to the movie “Major League?” Why couldn’t we all of a sudden have that same moment of “ah, I get it. Now we can win?” Why couldn’t we have another season that we come back and bring some Indian Fever back to the town who deserves it?
Why can’t we sing “Hang on Sloopy” with pride during the eighth inning? It can all come back in a flash Cleveland. Hold onto your seats – cuz it will shock you when it happens. If it could only be 2007 again. What a year in Indians history. 96 wins, with Pronk having a stud year only to come through in the playoffs.
It all comes back to this loss we endured, 10-0. That doesn’t show a true team going out and getting beat 10-9, it shows a bunch of nuts who just aren’t on their game. It sickens me to think about how bad we really are. I think we officially get the term “suck,” added to our name. We are now the Cleveland “We Suck” Indians.
We almost, suck right now, as bad as the Browns do. We continue to dig holes for ourselves only to take half the season to climb back out of them. Here’s a stat for you : Eric Wedge has only had one winning first half of the season in his entire career – which means obviously he and the Tribe dig a huge hole that needs climbing out of.
Here’s the memo if you missed it Eric : It’s called start playing good in the first half or get fired! And I am being straight to the point – I can rant all I want but that doesn’t change anything. That doesn’t change the way the Indians play which sucks, because I am so devoted. Here it is straight to you : If the Indians have a winning first half – they will make the playoffs. Just like they did in 2007 – AKA the only year they had a winning first half.
You have to look at the big picture. If you go into the second half with a sub .500 record and the team leading your division is 8 games over – in this case the Tigers, you got a lot of catching up to do. That is what we do every year. We have to scratch, tear, and climb ourselves out of these holes we dig.
It isn’t like our division is the AL East, in fact we have one of the easiest divisions in baseball right now, if not THE easiest. Detroit is leading the division with a 75-62 record, which is pretty decent. But to tell you the truth – they have started turning it on recently. We were only a good 11 games back about 2 weeks ago.
I am taking it step by step now – as are the Indians. Making sure to keep going on the right road, nothing sloppy or in the wrong direction. So tomorrow, I will shake off the tiredness and jump in the shower with enthusiasm – and then see what happens. You never know what could happen, it is sometimes a game of luck.
You know what they say : “People with good attitudes are always winners.” And that could be the case for the Indians and Ted. I hope that is the case as I will be the best morning person in all of my life these next few weeks, and then see how it plays out. Come on Cleveland, we need you!!
–Ted “TTW/T” —
Are you kidding me?! I didn’t see the game because I went to the fair yesterday. Boy, what a game I missed. When I saw the boxscore, dang was I surprised. Laporta and Marte are actually on legitimate hot streaks. Laporta (4-4 last night) raised his average up to .296 while Marte (2-4) raised his up to .289. These kids can play, and have finally found out how to hit at the big league level. Next year could be a shocking season Cleveland, you be ready!
Marte saved the Indians once again by hitting a three run bomb in the sixth that helped the Tribe topple the Orioles, 5-3. That was the second night of the row Marte hit a game winning homer, and he is on a tear. Marte has a 10 game hitting streak while going (15-36) .417 with three homers and twelve runs batted in. Him and Laporta have really ganged up, and destroyed opposing pitching. Who would have guessed?
Is this the same Andy Marte? The guy that was hitting in the low .200’s for his career BA? The same guy who couldn’t catch up to the fastball, and couldn’t lay off of the low curve? Yes, that’s Andy Marte, only he has a different swagger about him. He seems like he has more confidence, and patience at the plate, which leads to him getting his pitch, and nailing it every time. Andy has really came out of his shell, and finally reached his potential after so many years. I stopped believing myself last year when he hit in the .100’s. Guess it’s time to start believing!
Matt Laporta, as I said is an XBH machine. Well, last night, he went 4-4 with a double and a run. Let’s just add another one to his double column. I think he has like a five game double streak? Laporta has hit (16-39) .410 since joining the Indians and has a 10 game hitting streak. Laporta is a great hitter, the question was, “When will he become a big league hitter?” The answer is, “Now.” Laporta has a great swing, and is really seeing the ball well. Like Andy, Matt is staying back and waiting for his pitch, and his patience has really helped him.
With Marte and Laporta both on 10 game hitting streaks with similar numbers during the streak, they are adding extra fire power to a young Indians lineup. Everyone in the Indians lineup had one hit last night except for Choo, and Giminez who were 0-fers. That’s never a good night, but I am sure Choo will make up for it tonight with a good 3 hits. He is just like that. That’s how he rolls. That’s how the Indians roll. We love you Cleveland!
I can’t believe I missed the game. A friend invited me to go to the County Fair and watch a demolition derby, so I went, and we ended up watching some big smashing and banging and some smoke a-flyin. It was all a good time, but I wouldn’t trade all of that for missing a great Indians game. It’s okay though, I didn’t see the Indians 22-3 win over the Yankees. Dang! I am unlucky, that’s it.
Jeremy Sowers my friend, could you try to go more than 5 innings while giving up 2 earned runs or less? He just doesn’t have the stamina or something, because Sowers pitched pretty well yesterday but only went 4.2 innings. He gave up 2 earned on 6 hits which leads me to think he was near 70 pitches. Why wouldn’t he keep going? Who knows? Maybe Eric Wedge holds him to an 80 or so pitch count so he will ease his way into throwing more pitches. I guess he just dipped his toes in the water cause there is no way he is already halfway in.
He almost seems like Pedro Martinez, where they hold him on a leash until he gets to a certain amount of pitches. Hmmm, if only he was him… I see the similarities, 4.2 innings of work, nibbles on the corner’s, and gives up many hits. Jeremy Sowers needs to start throwing more pitches now, and see where he goes with it. Gosh I remember when my grandpa was a boy. Juan Marichal threw something like a 160 pitches and just iced his arm and was ready to throw the next day. Why can’t pitcher’s go back to the past and throw that many pitches?
Money factor definitely plays into it. If you lose a guy who threw 120 pitches to injury, or his arm is too sore to pitch for the next month, there goes $3 million right out the window. Back then, they didn’t care about money or anything. They would just go out there and pitch every day for the love of the game. I just don’t feel that factor anymore, everyone is about money, money, money. You see young guys at the Draft holding out to get more money, cough cough Stephen Strasburg. Who cares about the money? Who cares about your arm? Let’s just play baseball.
And play it the right way. The love of the game is almost shattered completely. With players not caring about baseball, just wanting money and more money. That just sickens me that players hold out just for more money so they can pay for the Ferrari, and for a mansion. Heck, $1 million is enough for me by itself! Milton Bradley is a good example, having a crappy year, and just not doing anything about it. What adjustments has he made? None. Zero. He hasn’t even thought of making adjustments. He is laughing at the Cubs because he gets paid, and the Cubs got screwed.
The Indians are showing me they have this factor, they go out there every night, gunning for the W. The starting pitchers go out there time after time, and really give the Indians a chance to stay in the ballgame. In Fausto Carmona’s case, keep the Indians within 7 runs. Good enough right? The offense has been shining with the young stars in Andy Marte and Matt Laporta, and have really been playing off of them. They are the energizer bunnies of the Cleveland Indians, and have enough power to run the team.
Even though Progressive Field hasn’t let many home runs out of the yard happen, the Indians have still won many games there. And who needs the long ball? The Indians have the gaps and all kinds of time to run! That’s old school, and that is the Cleveland Indians! Progressive Field has been helpful to pitcher’s as it ranks about 20th for home runs hit. I guess it must be the left field wall, the mini monster. Or it could be the 410 wall at center, which doesn’t give up alot of homers. You have to be a man to hit one out there. We haven’t seen many hit it out there.
This all leads back to one factor, the love of the game. Players like Derek Jeter, Omar Vizquel, always play for the love of the game. They just love baseball itself, and don’t care about money or if they are sore or not. Cal Ripken Jr. is a great example. He was hurt many times throughout his record consecutive games streak. But did he stop? No, cuz he wanted that record. He has the love of the game and my respect. If only all players could have that, oh how the game would change…
I don’t really wanna talk about the game last night because all I can say is “wow”. The Indians had 12 hits and couldn’t score more than four runs. Pathetic. You usually see the nice side of Ted, but not this time. I am like a tiger on the prowl ready to pounce when the Indians lose like this. I mean, all I can say is “embarrasing”. That is all Eric Wedge’s deal now. Well, we just didn’t hit with runners in scoring position, simple enough…
Just like earlier in the season where we beat the Yankees 22-3, we were all laughing while they were cursing their minds out over the loss. I mean a loss is a loss, but when you lose 13-4 something needs to be said, or done. They had 15 hits, a number that is nowhere near where is should have been. The Orioles had three players with three hits or more and had three players that had 3 RBI or more in the game. That just disgusts me… You can’t go out there and think that you are going to win every time, you have to have confidence.
On the good hand, we had three doubles, and Matt Laporta homered. And let me just say this. “Matt Laporta is going to be a star player in two years, count on it.” He is an extra base hitting machine, I know you have heard me say it before, but this time, its for real. Laporta can hit the gaps like no other, and is continuing to dent the pitcher’s ERA. They don’t know how to get him out right now, but for next year’s sake, don’t expect HUGE numbers, because the whole MLB will learn how to get him out, and will be watching his every move.
Kind of like Cal Ripken Jr. was. He is having a great rookie season, and now everyone is going to be on his case. Well, Fausto, Fausto, Fausto, you did us wrong again buddy. Those walks and hits always come in a big inning all together, and it always comes back to bite you. They dented you in the fourth big time, as you went 4.2 uhm…kinda strong giving up 6 earned runs on 9 hits, and 3 BB. It wasn’t a bad outing at all until they totally unloaded on you in the fourth. You weren’t pitching bad at all. And I congratulate you on throwing three innings of two run baseball where at least you kept us in the game.
I do admit though, maybe you coulda done a little better if the offense had your back, but they didn’t and you should have dealt with it. You didn’t though and that is baseball. It sucks to go out there and have to do things by yourself, but when your needed, you gotta come through buddy. Its not like they are going to give you seven runs everytime out just to save your sorry little butt. What happened to the 07 playoff guru Fausto Carmona who no one could hit off of, and was the ace of the Indians staff? Where did he go?
He must have moved far far away cuz that playoff Fausto and regular season for that matter… isn’t around anymore. I wanna keep thinking that he is, but the truth of the matter is, they have you figured out now, like most one year pitcher’s. Cliff Lee on the other hand, has them figured out. They got Cliff early on in the season, but he steadied out and figured out how to get back into his Cy Young form again. He is now 5-0 with a sub 1.00 earned run average, and is making us Clevelanders cry our eyes out. We should have kept him…
But on the other hand, we got Lou Marson and Carlos Carrasco, who are two great young guys that are coming up in September call-ups. I am not sure about you guys, but I really wanna see these guys in action. Carrasco went 7 strong innings in his last start and gave up 1 earned run. If though he didn’t surprise already, he added onto the hype of him being a big league pitcher. Marson has been hot since he came to Cleveland, and is ready to take over the starting catching role.
Shoppach isn’t the answer for me at catcher, nor is Toregas. Shoppach strikes out more times than he gets hits. He is a good 20 HR guy, but also could be the league leader in strike outs. I would want a catcher that would hit 5 HR and drive guys in all of the time when needed to. That is Marson,… well now at the minor league level however. And Toregas, not a fan. I don’t like how he hits, he has a slow bat, and can’t catch up to the fastball. Well what pitch is he going to hit? The curve? Guess so. Not a big league guy just yet.
And to just make me smile some more, we have Carlos Santana at AA Akron. What a player is Carlos, hitting .285 with 21 HR and 89 RBI. And as I have said commenting on other blogs, “do the Aeros tell their pitcher’s to duck when Santana throws to second, because one of these days, someone is going to get killed.” And that is very true, because Santana has a machine gun of an arm. If you thought Wieters had a good arm, wait til you see this kid, you will be blown away. I know I was. He can flat out play!
I am telling you, Brantley is the answer in the outfield. Brown could DH or share time in LF but Brantley is the long term answer in my opinion. He has 43 stolen bases and has been caught stealing only 5 times. That means he has about an 8 to 1 ratio of stealing a bag. I am really locked in on this kid, because he has so much speed, and speed thrills! If both he and Jordan Brown are brought up, I would put Brown in LF since he is a true left fielder, and I would put Brantley at DH, and leadoff. I would move Grady to the third spot, and Choo to the cleanup spot, leaving the fifth spot in the order to Peralta. Just my opinion.
Rondon wasn’t so successful in his last start, which is leaving me questioning, “is he really the answer for now?” He could be, and could not be. I just need to see him at the major league level and then decide. Pitcher’s can live off of the outside corner and can get away with throwing the ball up in the minors, but not so much in the majors. There is always the “could” factor involved, and I wanna see if he “can” succeed.